Political Reframing - DUE: CLASS 12 - Ms Waller's GovEcon12 Class

Political Reframing - DUE: CLASS 12

3/14/2016

Please either:

1. Post an example of a politician reframing an argument to appeal the other side. Explain why this is reframing.

EX: a republican reframing an argument in terms of liberal values
EX: a democrat reframing an argument in terms of conservative values

2. Post an example of a politician very specifically NOT reframing to appeal to the values of the other side. Be sure to explain why this is an example
3. Respond to someone else's example.

108 Comments

Benjamin Herlihy

3/14/2016 05:09:45 pm

Topic: Abortion
Democrat re-framing for Republican: The government should allow abortions, it is the woman body and the government has no right to interfere.

This is re-framing because it is using the Republican idea of small government to justify abortion.

One example of a politician not re-framing is Donald trump's speech where he mentions banning Muslims from entering the United States. He makes no attempt to appeal to the democrats as to why this is the right thing to do.

Valerie Kornitchouk

3/14/2016 05:19:05 pm

I like the example you used because abortion is a major topic that hits conservative values as well as feminist and independent beliefs. Also, I don't think Trump even knows what reframing is.

Justin Hall

3/14/2016 05:19:36 pm

I totally agree with your statement. I believe that you have to appeal to all voters ways of thinking, not just your own.

Tiffany Da Silva

3/14/2016 05:35:38 pm

I agree with your statement, I believe that if a women is raped she should have the choice of aborting- its her right. But then again Conservatives would argue that it's not the babies fault of the rape.

Jessica Gamble

3/14/2016 05:39:13 pm

I like your statements. It is very easy for someone to appeal to their own values, which is clearly problematic in politics. Considering we are older and can understand better, it is interesting to see the politicians fight(with each other and the public) due to their lack of knowledge on how to try to appeal to others.

Valerie Ngo

3/14/2016 06:31:59 pm

I agree with you and Ben that politicians can't or don't try to appeal to the wants of others. I think that part of the reason why we don't see politicians reframing their views to appeal to the opposite side is because they literally can't or have a hard time doing, like we discussed in class. However, I also think that the other part of the reason why we don't see politicians reframing views is because they're too stubborn to budge on their own beliefs (e.g. Donald Trump) and because they have to stay true to what their side wants. A Republican candidate might not reframe his ideas to appeal to Democratic voters because he must stay loyal to Republican beliefs in order to keep voters that share the same beliefs. Yes, there are a bunch of Democrats with some Republican views and vice versa, but there aren't enough Republicans or Democrats willing to compromise. Besides, I think if a candidate compromises too much, people will doubt the strength of his or her beliefs and might think that the candidate's views are all over the place.

Sera Knobler

3/16/2016 06:23:54 am

I agree with Tiffany and Tania because if a woman is not ready to support a child, it should be her choice whether or not to have an abortion. If the child was to be born into a family that couldn't support him/her, that child may not end up on the right path. This is a very controversial topic in America as it is not only dealing with the life of one person, but potentially the life of another.

Elijah

3/27/2016 09:35:52 pm

I wouldn't say politicians lack knowledge as to efficiently appeal to other statesmen of different political foundations. I think that it's more of a matter of staying true to your platform. I understand that re-framing is important when trying to convince others of a personal ideal, but, sometimes re-framing can dilute your own personal ideal. Is it then worth it?

Tania Pena Ortiz

3/14/2016 08:23:19 pm

I think Abortion is a very controversial topic for we all hold different moral values. I think for politicians who hold strong personal values regarding this topic will find themselves in a very hard position, where re-faming their opinion on this controversial topic maybe tough. However, your use of this idea of "small government" as a justification for pro-abortions is a very clever method for making the statement appealing for Republicans.

Shristi Lamsal

3/14/2016 08:24:34 pm

Your wording was great and I completely with your statement because sometimes a teenager can make a mistakes and just because republicans think that a fetus should have human right and should keep the baby, that teenager can't ruin his/her career by taking care of the baby for the rest of their life.

Glismarie Rivera

3/15/2016 06:24:28 pm

I really like your topic on abortion. It is a controversial topic, which is why liberals and conservatives don't agree on certain things about feminism and women's rights. All women should have the choice to do whatever they want with their body.

Tasmia Hussain

3/16/2016 08:18:31 pm

I believe that women have the control to do whatever they desire with their body. The government in no circumstances should decide what is "best" for a woman's well-being. Not all women have the same ideals. Some may prefer to keep a child they conceived through rape, while others may not. This is a woman's choice, not the government's.

Tashee Fulmore

3/17/2016 06:51:27 am

I think this is a good way to reframe,but just to refine your example a little more, you can include how making abortions illegal would be infringing on a woman's indiviual liberty and by taking away such a right would lead to creating a never ending cycle of poverty for mothers who can not afford a child and end up having to struggle with the child they had orginally planned to abort.The children will be trapped in poverty and this will worsen our economy and decline our nation's success in competing in the global economy. Also being in this cycle would make the government bigger because there will be more women in need of welfare especially young teens who are still dependent on their parents and their parents can not support the teen and the teen's child.

Jerry Balbuena

3/18/2016 08:24:06 am

I think this is a good example of reframing because it appeals to the Republicans notion of minimal government influence and they use this idea as a justification for abortion

Kylana Laspina

3/19/2016 06:31:41 am

Although you mention the republican ideal for little government interference, republicans also believe that the fetus growing inside of a woman's body also has individual rights. By becoming more detailed in no government interference, you are also undermining democratic ideals of rights being protected by government regulation. Even though abortion is a controversial topic, you should go further into why little government inteference is essential to allow abortion to occur.

Sharmin Sultana

3/19/2016 09:31:42 am

It is quite very "daring" of Trump to not even think about appealing to the democratic values and voters. This shows how confident he is in his argument, and he doesn't feel the need to have a unanimous view on the banning of Muslims. This makes you wonder if not reframing an argument for the other side is actually a better option for getting your views heard and supported.

Derek Browne

3/14/2016 05:21:05 pm

Topic : Abortion
Democrat reframing in terms of Conservative : Abortion should be the chose of a woman, however, the government should step in on a case by case basis.
This is reframing because it includes the idea that the government should have some part in the abortion process.

Bernie Sanders believes that abortion is a decision only for a woman and her doctor to make, because she is in control over her own body, not the government.

Thalia Mercado

3/14/2016 05:32:44 pm

I agree with your statement because it is true that in this case the liberals are allowing the conservatives ideas to blend in with their natural beliefs. Which is really important because it demonstrates liberals and conservatives can at least try and make their ideas in some way connect.

Elmedin Radoncic

3/15/2016 08:36:11 pm

I agree with what you're saying. It's actually pretty amusing to see that liberals and conservatives are actually trying to make their ideas connect more smoothly and finally agree on one big idea that will better society.

Nabil Khan

3/20/2016 08:13:57 am

This is a great example of reframing an argument should work. It appeals to both sides. Also both sides have to make little sacrifices in their beliefs to get what they want. The Dems. will win in the fact that women will get a say in their future and the GOP will win in the fact that government is limited.

Thalia Mercado link

3/14/2016 05:27:05 pm

Topic Taxes: Marco Rubio found himself stating, in one of his speeches, while being in Florida that the amount of taxes people are paying are more than what they pay for food, clothing, and housing. This statement made by Marco Rubio demonstrates how much of an impact do the conservatives ideas have on what he states. Conservatives believe in the fact that people should not be paying too much taxes. Due to the fact, that it really is not helping the middle class progress economically if not it is doing the total opposite.

Jada Rodriguez

3/14/2016 09:24:17 pm

I agree with you when you indicate how Marco Rubio portrays his conservative views. In this case he doesn't reframe his point of view since he expands on how people are paying too much taxes when they can barely afford their necessities . His point of view is focused on how an independent person who works should afford necessities instead of paying a lot of taxes for people who are getting help from the government.

Emani McDowell

3/16/2016 05:48:07 am

I think Thalia made a valid point in that, sometimes political party members seem to stick to their party's ideologies. That may not be the best idea since their are two different parties in this country in which the majority sides with. When running it may be really difficult, but it is important to try to appeal to all of your viewers even if they don't believe in everything you're advocating for. In doing so you will atteact an abundance of supporters.

Jessica Gamble

3/14/2016 05:31:52 pm

Topic: Common core
1. Republican reframing an argument in terms of liberal values: By changing the education system after many years, students(3rd-8th grade) are allowed to take the entire school day to complete the Common Core Exam.
Explanation: By doing this, the students who are struggling with the material within the time frame can take all the time they need to complete it. Additionally, it benefits everyone because the students aren't struggling can also finish with ease and refrain from bragging inappropriately.

2. Politician NOT reframing to appeal to the other side(Same topic) The Common Core exam prepares students for the future global economy.
Explanation: This statement clearly has everything to do with money. By changing the exam, students are more prepared to compete in the global economy, which brings in more money for the United States. This conservative view highlights the MONEY, rather than a fair statement for everyone.

Devin Bridgelall

3/14/2016 06:30:23 pm

I believe that it is more fair for the common core exam should be held as an all day thing rather than a limited time. Students learn and develop at different pace, some are faster than others. This gives them an advantage especially when timed. Also, students may not have had the same opportunities or advantages as other's. It is better if everyone is given an extenuating time period. This allows all students to have equal opportunity. Those who finish early should be able to leave and cannot speak about it until the day of testing is over. To compete a child's education with a economy system is not right, it is a right to be knowledgable and have access to knowledge and learn hence the creation of public schooling.

Belle Clemente

3/15/2016 05:19:41 pm

I agree with you, and I think that specifically the implementation of Common Core speaks directly to the 'liberal, moral, and fair' view of things. Common Core can be super controversial not only because of its effects on students, but on those in and around the educational system. This ultimately is the future of our country. Twisting, or rather, viewing it at a different angle is a clever way to promote it, but I agree with Devin in saying that a child's education should not be a competitive factor in the American economy. I think that while this political re-framing, or lack of, can be effective, it is only to a certain extent. Yes, liberals may be more favorable to concepts of morality and fairness, and conservatives may be more favorable towards concepts of finance and global competition, but there should be a line in between, independent of politicians vying to get a certain legislatures passed. These new platforms should be looked at objectively, simultaneously keeping in mind reasonable moral obligations and successful beneficial economic opportunity.

Alexandria J.

3/23/2016 07:50:39 pm

I agree with you because, often too many children are under tons of stress even when they are bright and yet cannot do as well as they would if they just had some more time. I say this because it is often found that once a student starts any state required exam it takes a around 20 minutes before they are calm enough to fully pay attention. With a longer amount of time to take the exam students will not freak out towards the end of the exam trying to cram the last questions. Exams are meant to test ability of knowledge not the speed in which the brain processes the knowledge. However, I feel if students were given more time, test makers would take advantage of it by making the questions more complicated or adding more questions. Similar to how teachers take advantage of time off giving us more work than we should have, saying its lost time, but in reality it is not because all schools are in session for the exact amount of days needed. As for the second politician, unless the exams and courses are about government, economy, statistics or laws, it does not help that aspect. Not every career path has to do with the global economy.

Tiffany Da Silva

3/14/2016 05:32:42 pm

1. Topic: Health Insurance
Republican reframing argument in terms of liberal values: Health care should run in high costs and everyone should receive the same quality of health care. Health care expenses run off too high. Liberals would argue that Americans who can’t afford health care have the right to have an affordable health care.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMaYvtNGTk
An example of a republican not reframing an argument in terms of liberal values is the first 1:28 seconds in the video above. It was stated that fifteen years ago Trump called himself a liberal on health care which means he supported the Liberal side of the idea that every American has a right to affordable health care. This is significant because he once supported what Liberals support, but his mindset has changed now and being a conservative, he believes that healthcare should remain privatized.

Danilsa Lendof

3/14/2016 05:54:48 pm

In my opinion I believe that everyone weather rich or poor should have the opportunity to be offer health care. For those who can't afford it they should still have it. Health care should be given to everyone and it should not be exclusivel to those who can afford it. Its not beneficial to our country since if we don't give health care to the poor the percentage of sick people will rise. Therefore, everyone deserves equal treatments and health care should be offer to everyone.

Tania Hussain

3/14/2016 07:08:44 pm

I agree with Danilsa. Health care is a major issue in America. Everyone should have access to afford health care. Everyone has the right to be given the same fair treatment. Whether one is poor or one is rich, they are entitled to health care and it is the responsibility of the government to ensure that this is applicable to everyone. I believe that it is America's responsibility to make sure that the poor and the rich are taken proper care of.

Divena Nanpersaud

3/14/2016 06:38:04 pm

In my opinion I feel as though everyone deserves health care. Whether their rich or poor everyone deserves equal treatment. Just because one group can't afford health care that doesn't mean they should be left to die, they deserve help. Health care shouldn't be an exclusive thing it should be an opened aspect to all of society. Think about it if health care wasn't offered to everyone then the amount of healthy people will decrease and in a worst case scenario the death rate will increase. Health care in my opinion needs to be offered to everyone.

Sierrah Tann

3/15/2016 03:47:20 pm

I agree entirely with your post, health care is in fact very essential to everyone within America rich or poor. Health care is suppose to provide medical coverage for everyone equally. Not only rich people get sick and can afford, poor people endure sickness and sometimes can't get health care and end up not being cured or treated, so this is definitely an issue that should give equal quality of health care to everyone.

Justin Hall

3/14/2016 05:33:57 pm

Topic: Lower price for education

Democrat to republican: Lowering the price of colleges and different forms of education, can lead the students to live a better life and get a better job, so they would not have to depend on the government for help.

Chris Christie on using E-verify to ban illegal immigrants from even getting the opportunity to prosper

PT.2

3/14/2016 05:35:47 pm

This is re framing because it shows the republicans that we will become more independent which means less government involved

Nayeli Pena

3/14/2016 05:54:58 pm

This statement is reasonable because the cheaper college is, the more possibility there will be of students attending college and becoming independent from the government, which is exactly what Republicans stand for. In addition, the harder it is to afford education, the more financial aid we will need from the government.

Asmerom

3/14/2016 06:06:19 pm

That was a wonderful example , Justin. It's almost like a paradox in a sense that conservatives preach free market , less government intervention in public life but however does not provide the resources for one to be less dependent.

Benjamin Herlihy

3/14/2016 06:22:08 pm

This is a good example of reframing it appeals to the republicans because they believe in a smaller government.

Derek Browne

3/14/2016 06:53:17 pm

I really find your example of the Democrat reframing to the views of the conservatives, very intriguing.

Marie Verdi

3/14/2016 07:16:55 pm

This is a good example and in America this would actually would be a good thing as Nayeli said, it'll allow people more opportunities to succeed. It will also prevent the rise of debt of loans, as of now we have about 830 billion dollars in debt according to a source I saw a while back and it's likely it has increased. However we've seen how the Republicans view that education must be something to earn and some has even gone as far to say to limit aide.

Cindy Yu

3/15/2016 05:50:35 pm

This is a really good example and valid point. I think we can all relate on some level to this as we are all going through college processes this year and it can get overwhelming when we get our financial aid packages and that's when it really starts to hit us. This would be extremely helpful thing for us and would allow more people to succeed in colleges so they would be burdened with paying off student loans after they graduate. Republicans are also in favor of less government intervention which would be a good thing for this specific topic.

Darwin Pena

3/15/2016 06:44:24 am

This is an example of reframing since it shows how the decrease in tuition cost will result in less dependence on the government (making it smaller); however, it also incorporates the beliefs of Democrats because by decreasing the cost of tuition the government is alleviating economic conditions within society.

Hazel Yaktubay

3/14/2016 06:25:00 pm

Topic: Gun Control

Liberal Argument: 1) Gun control prevents death 2) You cannot own any gun you wish 3) Decreased amount of guns equals decreased crime rates

Conservative Argument: 1) 2nd Amendment grants us the right to own guns

One example of Republicans not appealing to Democratic views can be heard in Trump's speech about gun control. Trump- along with many other Republicans use the 2nd Amendment as their justification for not wanting stricter laws. This is not appealing to Democrats because they are speaking from a constitutional view whereas Democrats speak from a more emotional stand point.

Divena Nanpersaud

3/14/2016 06:29:59 pm

1.Topic: Abortion
The talk about Abortions is a discussion that can and will cause many debates among all people of a society. Democrats have reframed this discussion on Abortations to a conservative view in the way that they believe it is a Women's decision on whether or not she gets an abortion but, depending on the case they also feel as though the government needs to take some steps into this decision making.

Now what makes this a reframing view is that it is believed that the government needs to take a step in when it comes to the Abortion process along with these women who believe that this decision is only up to them.

2. Example: https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-womens-rights/

If you follow the link about you will read that Candidate Bernie Sanders has said and believes strongly that "We are not going back to the days when women had to risk their lives to end an unwanted pregnancy. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman and her doctor to make, not the government." Bernie Sanders just wants to protect the rights of women in this world because he feels as though a women has total control over her body and has the rights to decide what she wants to do with her body no one else needs to step in. He doesn't want now to go back to the old times when a women had risk her life in order to get rid of a baby. He wants women to have that freedom and decide for themselves because women do have control over their bodies and it's unfair to force them to do something they aren't comfortable doing just because the government feel s as though they have to have a say and have the upper hand.

Jenny Fine

3/14/2016 08:34:00 pm

I agree that talking about abortion is complicated, it hits people's morals hard. Trying to explain why one thinks women should have full reproductive rights to someone who is pro-life is extremely hard.I like the way you used a direct quote from Bernie Sanders that captures the liberal belief in the right to choose.

Shivana Singh

3/15/2016 02:39:39 pm

I strongly agree with you Divena because these days the government thinks that it's their responsibility to make decisions for people if they want to have an abortion or not. I like the way you used Bernie Sanders as a source because he has a strong opinion about abortion that women should have total control over their body.

Laura Sanchez

3/20/2016 08:09:44 am

Just like Jenny said, abortion is extremely complicated to talk about. As Divena and Shivana said, I do think that women should make their own decisions. Personally, I am against it, but it is ones decision.

Crystal Hernandez

3/14/2016 06:42:00 pm

Donald Trump is the eminent representation of a politician who very specifically does NOT reframe to appeal to the values of the opposing party. In addition to failed tactics at actually describing political, social, or economic strategies to prove that he is qualified to run a presidency indicative of American values/needs, the few strategies that Donald Trump is able to convey lie completely on a conservative spectrum. He does not cater to or care about convincing the other party. He is not ever interested in coming to an agreement or consensus with the Democratic Party. Our government is structured in a way where the Democratic and Republican party are supposed to disagree but implement both sides of the spectrum in order to produce the most optimal solution or decision for the American public. With Donald Trump as our President there will be no room for dissension. He is not capable or willing to compromise his values even if political reframing doesn't merely describe the total loss or change of those values but instead describes the communication of those values differently.

Example of how Donald Trump does NOT use political reframing:
"We don't have a country- if we don't have borders."

P.S - This example comes directly from Donald Trump's twitter page and is the only example I could find. All other posts include Donald Trump trash talking other candidates as his main arguments for the public to vote for him. This example however, displays how he fails to use political reframing. Trump solely represents the Conservative perspective regarding immigration in this example and does not allude to any possible appeal to the opposing side.

Sinead Kiernan

3/14/2016 07:30:20 pm

I think that this is important to point out that some candidates, particularly Donald Trump, as in your example, are unable to use political persuasion and rhetoric. However, it is notable that he is still successful when it comes to supporters and votes. It is clear that because he focuses solely on sharing his opinion through the lens of a conservative, it is therefore less likely for a liberal to support, or rather understand his mindset. Additionally, the use of social media is impacting the way he shares his message and therefore allows him to directly share his opinions, that are not meant to compromise with any opposing parties, with those who support and even those who do not support him.

Isatou Bah

3/14/2016 10:09:18 pm

I really like you analysis! However, I think politicians like know how to use political rhetoric. Donald Trump is only able to have a huge following because of the rhetoric he is using .Even though, his ideas might be completely out of touch with the ideas of most Americans, he is appealing to some Americans. On the other hand , your example of the social media is perfect. The media is projecting his message's without pointing pointing out it's flaws. I really do believe that if the media can focus on breaking down what he is saying rather than underscoring it's extremity, a lot more Americans would understand how incompetent politicians like Trump are.

Sherien Hassan

3/14/2016 07:36:10 pm

I agree! Most of Trump's arguments barely touches base of what is actually said. He is a very good example of someone that does not re-fame but instead consistently repeats what he thinks. If a politician can't have a clear understanding of what the other party is trying to advocate, there is no way possible they can have a strong argument.

Henr Prince

3/18/2016 09:10:56 am

I agree completely with the sentiment that Trump actively hinders healthy disagreement, but I believe your argument is couched in the belief that Trump is part of the conservative party. Technically, yes, Trump is running to become the Republican nominee but he is far from friendly with the establishment. So far, Trumps views and policy have placed him only in support of himself, and as demonstrated time and time again, Trump changes his views like clothes. The only people he cares about convincing to follow him are poor and uneducated whites who are angry and wish to channel that anger into racism and xenophobia.In fact, I believe Trump thrives on separating people, and division has helped his campaign succeed the way I has.

Sherien Hassan

3/14/2016 07:28:26 pm

Topic: Gun Control
Republicans re-framing towards Democrats...
The Second Amendment states there should be a right to bear arms for all law abiding citizens.
This is re-framing because it is using the Democratic idea that we should follow the constitution to justify who can own a gun and who can't.
Deb Fischer stated that "the people who have committed these horrific crimes would never have been stopped by a background check." She overlooked what the other party was attempting to make as an argument and refuted against an old argument without stating why.

Calvin Herman

3/14/2016 08:10:57 pm

Sherien, I like your point! One thing that struck me was your argument about the Democratic idea that we should follow the constitution. A follow up question to that is: should the constitution be followed literally, or should it be interpreted in one way or another?

Rangon Islam

3/15/2016 09:10:44 am

Nice point! What do you think this says about Deb Fisher? What is her actual position in this topic?

Shivana Singh

3/15/2016 02:54:15 pm

I like your point a lot, but we can't stop people if they want to buy a gun to protect them and their family. Even though the Democratic idea is to justify who can own a gun or not, the government wouldn't be able to know who would use a gun in a negative way.

Omar Romero

3/15/2016 06:05:47 pm

This is an excellent point, Sherien. I like how you used the Constitution as a way to appeal to democrats, since both parties base their arguments on the same document.

Victoria Collins-Yarde

3/17/2016 06:57:01 am

I like the way that Sherien rephrased the Republicans view point on Gun Control to persuade the Democrats because there is an underlining tone for "equality", which appeals to the liberal side of things for the people. With saying that "all abiding citizens" shows that the Republicans were able to put their beliefs and personal opinions to the side to gain support of those who may not see eye to eye with them.

Jesus Morales

3/18/2016 09:13:19 am

It is a slippery slope when we begin to thwart American rights as described in the bill rights. Whats next, preventing freedom of speech in order to protect the American public? The liberal argument doesn't actually stop mass shootings in America.

Calvin Herman

3/14/2016 08:02:41 pm

Topic: Immigration

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ken-walshs-washington/2016/03/07/trump-gets-branded-a-flip-flopper
1. Regarding immigration, one would picture Donald Trump as a politician—or a businessman, if you insist—who appears "tough" on immigration. Originally, he would oppose increasing visa availability to highly skilled foreign workers. However, according to this article he contradicted his original point and admitted that "We need highly skilled people in this country." For a Republican who is hearing Trump's new position, although it somewhat goes against a Republican's value, this is good news because more highly skilled people in America would generate the economy and make the country prosperous.

2. President Obama, in some of his immigration speeches, believes that undocumented immigrants should come out of the shadows . His argument? "It’s the right thing to do. And it will make America stronger." https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/06/06/weekly-address-celebrating-immigrant-heritage-month

JP Amaya

3/16/2016 06:09:47 am

Well thought out points, it delves upon the lives of many immigrants who strive so much to rise above amongst others. I agree with Obama and understand him, but for some reason, immigrants are in a cloud of fog and believe they will lose everything if they try to rise above their economic status. In all honesty, too much attention to this undocumented people may be the reason to why they chose to stay in their status.

Jenny Huang

3/16/2016 04:01:14 pm

I agree with you that President Obama's argument "It's the right thing to do. And it will make America stronger" is not a strong nor reframing argument because this is not appealing to Republicans nor does it have any Republican view points.

Tania Pena Ortiz link

3/14/2016 08:07:51 pm

Topic: Military and War on Terror
Should the United States Send Ground Troops to Fight ISIS?

Hilary Clinton had previously said that she didn't think "putting boots on the ground " was such a prudent idea. However, her opinion changed after President Obama's foreign policy speech. She stand in the pro-side for U.S Ground Troops in Syria, along side the republicans. I think her change of mind is reflective of the patriotism reflected upon republicans, mostly supporting that U.S Troops Ground should be mobilize .

I think is interesting how Bernie Sanders have an opposing view to that of Hilary and the Republican candidates.

Sanders stands on his ground as he claims, "...I will do everything that I can to make sure that the United States does not get involved in another quagmire like the one we did in Iraq." (he is against)

Nicholas Paleologos

3/15/2016 08:30:05 am

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are primary examples of politicians who mold their campaigns based on the overwhelming popular values, instead of holding on to personal ideologies and beliefs. From one perspective, this is a decent strategy. Donald Trump, in one of the recent debates, adequately defended himself by claiming that a person and politician need to be flexible in order to be successful. However, many voters will argue that this reflects a lack of rigidity and character, which are usually considered non-admirable qualities for a Presidential candidate.

Another trend seems to have emerged among Democratic and Republican candidates. In Hillary Clinton's recent campaign ads, interviews, and debates show a fusion of her own values with Bernie Sanders' promises. Given his increase in popularity, and thus the increased competition of the race, Hillary seems to have adopted some of his ideals to maintain the top Presidential candidate, especially in some of her recent victory speeches. Additionally, Republican candidates seem to have adopted similar campaign strategies as well. When asked, what would they do on their first day as Presidents, if elected, all of them described a similar agenda: get rid of Obama's policies.

Jenny Fine

3/14/2016 08:25:18 pm

Topic: Immigration  Democrat reframing for Republican: The government should allow people to come to the USA legally and join the workforce. With more people joining the workforce more will be able to contribute to the economy.  
This is reframing because it is using the Republican idea of ‘if the economy grows the unemployment rate will go down.’   

One example is when Nikki Haley, governor of South Carolina said in response to Obama’s State of the union speech she argued that immigration should not be looked down Upon. She stated that immigrants should be made to feel welcome although we have to maintain control of our immigration policy.

Tejaswee

3/15/2016 08:31:04 am

I like how you re-framed the idea for Republicans since they think that legal immigrants should be allowed only. However, I feel like though republicans do not support illegal immigration, those immigrants are the ones who do most of the unwanted or "dirty work" that most American Citizens will not do which allows the economy to grow and prosper. On the stand with immigration, I am a Democrat because I think that people should not be limited to living in one country only because the world is just great big land and nobody really owns it so people should be allowed to go wherever they want without having restrictions on their rights.

Victoria Paleologos

3/15/2016 09:12:51 am

I agree that immigration shouldn't be looked down upon, more often than not we forget that we are a country of immigrants, without immigration we wouldn't be here but also neither would many of our historical landmarks such as railroads that wouldn't exist without the exploitation of immigration, historically there has been both good and bad that has risen from immigration and we cannot ignore neither. Lastly, as for unemployment, I do agree that with more people joining the workforce, more will be able to contribute to the economy; the more there are consumers to spend money, the better the economy will be, and immigrants have been benefiting us within the workforce by taking the jobs no one wants.

Jordi Balbuena

3/15/2016 08:05:05 am

Topic: Same Sex Marriage

Liberals Persuasion:It's only fair that same-sex couples get to marry and enjoy the rights of millions of American citizens.
Conservative Persuasion: Gay Americans are loyal patriotic Americans who contribute to the military and the American economy, and they deserve the same rights that you have as an American.
One example of a politician giving persuasion is Bernie Sanders. He said “Of course, all citizens deserve equal rights,” Sanders said. “It’s time for the Supreme Court to catch up to the American people and legalize gay marriage”. This is example that appeals to liberals.

Mariama Jaiteh

3/21/2016 09:22:50 pm

I agree with Jordi. I think that both arguments can work to convince the opposing party. Although this might work, I feel like some conservatives will always go back to their morals; so this is one of the topics that doesn't have a clear answer as to how to convince the opposing parties.

joe alonzo

3/15/2016 08:08:34 am

An Example of a republican not reframing to the values of the liberals is Angela McGlowan and her stand on Gun control. She argues that gun control wont due any type of difference in the fight against mass shootings and refers to France having gun control and still suffering from many mass shootings. Terrorist, she adds, will always be able to come in control of a gun through the black market. In this debate of fox news, she went on to also mention the idea that the right to own a gun will allow the average citizen to prevent a mass shooting: argument is debunked by Joe Lestingi mentioning that in the last 30 years not one single gun man has been able to stop a mass shooting.

Darelis Moran

3/15/2016 08:30:22 am

I strongly with Crystal's response regarding to Donald Trump because as a presidential candidate he seems to be completely indifferent in convincing people that hold different political views to him. His racist comments and his future plans regarding the U.S border just create more and more hate towards him especially in the Hispanic community. Latino's form a large percent of the nations population and he seems to not care that each step that he progresses towards presidential election he is losing followers. He doesn't mention any liberal ideals in his speeches. He doesn't refram. Whoever likes him, likes him and whoever doesn't doesn't he is not willing to make an effort to convince those against him to vote for him.

Mersad Redzepagic

3/15/2016 08:45:35 am

Example of Democrat (Hilary Clinton) reframing her views to appeal toward a targeted group:
Topic: Gay Marriage
Hillary Had commented that Marriage in general is something sacred, and therefore, in 2010 had commented that she does not support gay marriage, but only supports civil partnerships. Then in 2013 had changed her point of view entirely when she potentially thought of running for president, saying she supports gay marriage.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbnKGopT0Uc

Example of Republican:
Something that a Republican would reframe toward Democrats on the topic of Gay Marriage
Gay Marriage is something that helps equality grow and even bring he socioeconomic classes closer to equality.
The Republican would structure his view toward the benefiting the people and not just the nation itself to appeal for the liberals.

Cierra Bakhsh

3/16/2016 06:51:34 pm

I really like your example of Hilary's reframing because it seems to me that that's what her campaign is running off of. It has been brought to many people's attention that Hilary's views have changed and are still changing, which seems like the reason for her fluctuating views are to appeal to different people.

Rangon Islam

3/15/2016 08:48:20 am

Topic: Abortion

Link: http://www.republicanviews.org/democratic-views-on-abortion/
Nancy Pelosi, a Minority Leader of the United States House of Representatives and former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, is an example of a democrat who did not try to re-frame to appeal to the values of the conservative side when she spoke about her opinions on abortion. She called “pro-life advocates ‘dumb’ during her acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award,” and did not try to compromise the situation.

Link: http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-abortion/
Mitt Romney, the Republican Party’s nominee during the 2012 presidential election, re-framed an argument about abortion: “he stated in his 2002 campaign for governor that he believes abortion is the ‘wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother.’” In a republican viewpoint, abortion is a bad decision. He combined that statement with the liberal perspective about how abortion is appropriate during the case of incest, rape, or to save the mother’s life. This way, he somewhat appeals to both sides.

Sierrah Tann link

3/15/2016 03:30:52 pm

Topic: Abortion
Democrat reframing argument in terms of conservative values: The conservative argument feels women should have control over the decision making of their abortion but there should also be ample interference in the decision making from the government. When in fact this is a personal decision and an act of protecting women's rights.

Democrat Bernie Sanders believes strongly and advocates for protection over women's personal rights. Voicing his opinion on this overwhelming issue Bernie states, "Women’s bodies are theirs, and they deserve access to high-quality reproductive and sexual healthcare. This includes access to contraceptives, and the right to choose a safe abortion." It is clear that Bernie Sanders goes against conservative views with the government's interference in women being given the complete right to contraceptives and personal decisions to a secure abortion. Standing up for women and their rights, personal privacy and decision making Bernie continues to protect the voice of many women. The decision of an abortion should be in the hands of the women and those necessarily involved not made publically.

Armand Hassen

3/15/2016 07:57:32 pm

I agree with you when saying the Abortion should be up to a woman because it's her body but understand that your killing your child. Doesn't that make you feel terrible. I agree to the fact that Abortion should be legal but everyone should know how horrible abortions are.

Omar Romero

3/15/2016 05:51:09 pm

Topic: Gun Control and Law Enforcement

There's are lot more nuance on each side, but this is the general idea of what each side is saying.
---What a liberal would argue: "Individuals don't need weapons to protect themselves because that's what a police officer is supposed to do."
---What a conservative would argue: "Individuals have the right to defend themselves, and guns are just a means of protection."

(1)
----How a liberal can rephrase their argument: "In the Constitution, it explicitly states that a 'well regulated Militia' has the right to own weapons. Rather than allow anyone to apply for a permit and buy a gun, we should have a far more extensive security system, and wanting to own a gun would require admittance into a heavily scrutinized militia. Mass shootings are objectively a bad thing, so to give guns to a specific, qualified, and trusted group would increase safety and decrease the amount of mass shootings."
---How a conservative can rephrase their argument: "Making any more gun control laws won't solve the problem because criminals can get guns without going through the already-regulated system. Instead, law enforcement should focus on enforcing the laws we already have; this way, the police can still protect the people, and those who behave well with a gun can retain their constitutional right to own a gun."

(2)
Ted Cruz, republican nomination candidate, doesn't make any attempt to reconcile his conservative stance on gun control with the liberal position, or even appeal to liberal ideals. He appeals to an only conservative audience and the gun lobby by trying to set himself up as an"unapologetic warrior for the Second Amendment"(CNN).

Maybe some topics don't have to be solved with a 100% liberal or conservative plan, but rather a mix of the two.

Second Amendment and its annotations: http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment2.html
(CNN article) Ted Cruz and gun control: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/10/politics/ted-cruz-guns/
Visual representation: http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/proud-liberal.jpg

Glismarie Rivera

3/15/2016 06:40:41 pm

Topic: Immigration

Liberal Views: Democrats believe that the country was built entirely from immigrants, and they want to be able to grant immigrants the right to citizenship in the U.S.
Conservative Views: Immigration, especially illegally, is not in their best interest. They believe that immigration should be limited in order to protect the citizens of the U.S. They believe that immigrants who possess a visa and other necessary legal documents should be able to enter U.S borders.

Ex. of a politician not re-framing to appeal to the other side: Donald Trump wants to be able to kick out all Mexicans living in the United States, believing that they are all "rapists" and "Drug dealers." He does not reframe it in any other way to appeal to the democrats, who believe that anyone should have the right to citizenship.

Celestine C Richardson

3/15/2016 07:20:18 pm

I agree with the different views on immigration but Donald Trump doesn't see the befits of having immigration. He's just seeing Immigration as something criminal. Even though america was made by immigration in the first place.

Celestine C. Richardson

3/15/2016 07:17:18 pm

Globe Warming

Liberal view: Most of the democrats view globe warming as a big problem that needs to be fixed because its making sure that humanity will survive in the near future. Their trying to come up with plans to help keep the planet back to balance again.

conservative view: Most republicans either so climate change as a issue that should be deal with later on meaning last on their list or not a problem at all.

An example of an republican name Jim Gilmore believes that climate change is real and a problem. When pres. Obama make the clean power plan. Most of the republicans didn't want the plan to happen but Jim Gilmore didn't protest to the plan.

Armand Hassen

3/15/2016 07:53:44 pm

Topic: Abortion
1. Democrat reframing argument in terms of conservative government.
The conservative government thinks that a woman should be able to chose whether or not she wants to have an abortion. But the conservative government also believes that the government should have a say in it. This is not right... This decision should be up to the woman only and should not have the government/media involved. This invades a woman's privacy and her decision is correct.

Link to Bernie Sanders argument.

http://liveactionnews.org/democratic-socialists-like-bernie-sanders-believe-abortion

In this Article about democrat Bernie Sanders, Bernie believes that a woman should have the right to her decision. If she wants to have an abortion it should be up to her because she is going to be responsible for this child. He also believes that if abortions were illegal he feels that is taking control over a woman's body and that is morally wrong. He strongly feels that women have the right to do what they want to their bodies and so they should have the right to abortion.

What I think: I think that Abortion is an extremely hard topic to go on about. I feel that there is no correct answer there is just many opinions. I think that Abortion is morally wrong meaning that yes you are the mother of the child but I don't think that it is right to decide to make it your decision to kill your child. Maybe you aren't financially able to support this child, but this child deserves to have a chance at life and when Abortions come around, they get no chance at life. Now I understand that yes this is your body and you should have the right to do what you what but you should understand that Abortions are wrong. Abortions are just not right, no one should be allowed to give up that easy. Just think if your mother and father were thinking of making you an Abortion... I'm sure that's pretty upsetting especially because of how far you've come in life and how much you achieved. Just think about if you were to be an abortion, you would have no say in this decision and that's where I'm trying to go with this.

Almas Redzematovic

3/15/2016 08:23:08 pm

I like your response a lot Armand because I agree with it. Abortion is a very controversial topic that deserves to be recognized and talked about in more Republican/Democratic debates. In addition to that, leaving the decision up to the mother is a huge responsibility because you are basically killing the baby that is inside the stomach, that is taking the life away from a baby. It's as if the mother has committed a crime because she has killed a poor soul that hasn't even opened his/her eyes yet. The mother should have 100% of the say because it is her baby but I do not believe that even considering killing the baby should be an option. I also feel as if Bernie Sanders has a strong opinion on Abortion but it is a very different one compared to a Republican candidate like Donald Trump. But my question to women is, why have a baby when you're going to consider and possibly get an abortion? It does not make sense to me, taking a baby that was not even born yet life. It is difficult for anyone to speak upon abortion because I don't think there are any right answers to abortions.

Nusrat Islam

3/15/2016 09:35:44 pm

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however Armand, you are not a women nor do you have the ability to get pregnant so I don't think it's right for you to try to convince people to think abortions are wrong, Anyways, like Ben mentioned earlier, it is the woman body and the government has no right to interfere. There could be personal/financial/health problems the women is facing and only she knows what would be the best decision for her, since it is her own life.

Nusrat Islam

3/15/2016 09:39:04 pm

*Armand and Almas

-Almas, I hope you understand not all pregnancies are planned,

Lin Li

3/16/2016 08:56:57 am

I like you example of re-framing, but I disagree with your opinion that abortions are just not right. There are a lot of cases that women are raped and the pregnancy is unplanned. The women has full rights to do what she wants to because the baby is still in her body and she has control of her body. However, I agree that if the pregnancy is planned, then the mother shouldn't kill the baby. Abortion really depends on different cases and situations.

Mayra

3/20/2016 05:33:39 am

I liked the example you gave for re-framing but I also have to disagree with your opinion because pregnancy isn't always planned and when it's not planned and a woman wants to have an abortion it doesn't necessarily mean that she is giving up, she could just not be ready to have a child or she was raped and she doesn't want to keep it. I feel that Abortion is a decision that should be made only by the woman herself and it would not be fair for the government to restrict her from getting an abortion if she chose to do so.

Awais Rahman

3/15/2016 11:43:02 pm

Topic: Syrain Refugee Crisis

Obama appealing to Conservative ideals when asked about banning Syrian Refugees: "That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion"

Senator Martin Heinrich (New Mexico): "We simply will not have the moral standing as a nation to lead in this international crisis if we ignore those who have lost everything at the hands of these barbaric terrorists."

Democrats Ultimately end up arguing from a moral standpoint when it comes to the opening of doors for Syrian Refugees. They never truly address the appeals that Republicans or Conservatives might have. For example aside from debunking the fear of a Syrian refugee being a terrorists which no actual evidence of such a thing exists; Democrats failed to realize the positives Refugees will bring. For starters an influx of lower-wage immigrants into a community tends to increase the overall wages of everyone else. Refugees do the opposite of hurting the economy, many of them will enter into working or labor positions where their help would boost the overall economy. Second if America is built on obey the "rules and laws" then we have TO FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL UN LAWS that protects ALL Syrian Refugees. We cannot simply refuse them or put a limit on how many we can bring in, its the law of the UN treaty that we signed which is followed by over 100 countries. Lastly the scary fact if all else fails is that by refusing the Refugees, terrorism isn't going to diminish. If anything these refugees will be backed into a corner where they will have no choice but to join the radical groups. These arguments are often what really hit the conservative view, it doesn't destroy terrorism it only fuels it. By refusing to let these people in it goes against american ideals. And the best part is that it will help grow the economy overall instead of hurting it.

Lin Li

3/16/2016 08:47:13 am

Topic: Gun Control

1. The Liberal believes that individuals do not need guns for protection. The Second Amendment does not give citizens the right to bear arms, it only gives National Guard the right to keep guns.
The Conservative re-frames the Liberal's argument by saying people should follow the Constitution and we can't change it.

2. Donald Trump would not support any restrictions on gun sales in the U.S., suggesting the bloodshed at last year's shootings in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif., may have been limited or prevented if some of the victims had been carrying guns.

Diya Patel

3/17/2016 07:38:54 am

I agree with your second comment. I believe that Donald Trump does not care about either political party stands and that he would just do what he thinks is right.

Jenny huang

3/16/2016 03:52:51 pm

1. Reframing: http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-health-care/
Mitt Romney stated that he agrees that "having all citizens insured would benefit the country as a whole", however, he also stated that "a government mandate is not the most efficient way to do this". He is reframing by stating that he agrees that everyone should have health care regardless of wealth, race, etc, since it is beneficial for the people and the country; this is the democratic view. Then, he talks about his republican view by stating that government involvement in this are is not the most effective.

2. Not reframing: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/election-2016/eighth-republican-debate-highlights/marco-rubio-goes-after-hillary-clinton-on-issue-of-abortion
Marco Rubio " turned the question into an attack on perception" when Hillary Clinton stated that she supported abortion. He did not try to change the idea to fit the democratic view point. He kept talking about the right perception.

Bao Nguyen link

3/16/2016 05:38:08 pm

In this article, I think Hillary Clinton does a great job trying to reframe the argument of allowing citizenship for all immigrants from a liberal to a conservative perspective. Ultimately, one of the biggest components of the conservative perspective is the free market. There should be great stimulation for the economy.
" Comito said 38 percent of his company's workforce is immigrants and refugees, but management often bumps into frustration because potential hires aren't authorized for employment in the United States. Some type of visa system is needed, he said."

"We are really missing out on economic opportunities because we haven't been able to agree on comprehensive immigration reform," [Clinton} said.

Allowing immigrants to be legal will improve the work force because that allows employers to hire these people without the fear of retribution. These days, most companies hire immigrants and refugees so why not make them legal? Improve the workforce at a faster and more legal way.

Christina Obuobi

3/17/2016 04:10:17 pm

I agree on this standpoint that you decided to speak on. Permitting immigrants into this country will allow the free market to increase, which is what liberals believe in.
This isn't the first time, however, that Clinton has reframed her arguments in the debate. In Feburary, Democratic nominee Bernie Sanders tweeted that Clinton "called to deport children feeling from the Central America to the U.S." This is similar to the immigration issue because it doesn't support the dynamic of civil liberties and equality.

Raimi Burg

3/16/2016 06:13:07 pm

The issue is: Health-Care

Liberals appealing to conservatives: Government sponsored health-care or low-cost health care is essential, because if people are not able to afford health care, their bills rack up if they are sick and/or have a disability and these bills are particularly expensive. If their bills rack up, they cannot afford to pay rent, and when they cannot pay rent, the landlord or city removes them from their home. This leaves them homeless,and they also lose their job which in turn weakens the national economy, which then affects Americas standing as a global financial power, because we do not have enough money circulating anymore.

This particular statement is re-framing because republicans favor a strong economy, and although they do not like government-issued healthcare, having a strong and competitive economy both at home and globally is one of the republicans key values.

Omoyele Okunola link

3/16/2016 06:33:34 pm

In the beginning of the presidential race, many people questioned Clinton's capacity to lead and how she flip-flopped on many important issues. Now, Clinton has made very definitive and decisive opinions on issues that affect the lives of most Americans.

As the current front-runner for the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton has stayed on the liberal/progressive side of controversial issues. She is an example of a current politician who has FAILED to reframe her ideas to appeal to conservatives, although she attempted to do so in the past. In order to establish fair growth in the economy, Clinton says that as president, she will ensure that more workers share in corporate profits and close tax loopholes that benefit the wealthiest taxpayers so that no millionaire pays a lower effective tax rate than his/her secretary. Hillary Clinton's plans as future president are very liberal and would anger most conservatives; however, she seems to be winning the presidential race. Instead of reframing her policies to appeal to conservatives, Clinton has reframed her ideas to appeal to the type of voters that she is hoping to get and keep.

Katelan Newman

3/17/2016 07:21:02 pm

Omi, I really liked that you gave an example of a politician that has not reframed their views, but do you also think that Hillary Clintons' inability to reframe her ideas may also be detrimental to her campaign ? Should she be focusing on appealing to new people that are not already left leaning?

Tasnim Shikder

3/16/2016 06:35:41 pm

Topic: Immigration
Liberals appealing to Conservatives: The democrats believe in legal immigration and that all immigrants should have equal opportunities and rights and that they should have the same rights as American citizens. For a liberal to appeal to a conservative, they could say that immigration will profit the nation. Giving immigrants the right to education and other benefits will help them create businesses which ultimately results in an increase in wealth for the nation.

Conservatives appealing to Liberals: Republicans also believe in legal immigration, however, they believe that immigrants who break the law by entering the U.S. illegally do not and should not have the same rights as the law abiding legal citizens. For a conservative to appeal to a liberal, they could say that immigration protects the civil equality of the immigrants who come in legally.

This is reframing because the liberals are arguing this topic in conservative values because conservatives value profit for the nation and what's best for the nation. This is also reframing for the liberals by conservatives because liberals value equality and legal immigration will protect legal immigrant's civil equality/rights.

Cierra Bakhsh link

3/16/2016 06:46:19 pm

Topic: Welfare & Poverty

Throughout Bernie Sanders' campaign, it seems as if he is not even attempting to reframe his arguments to appeal to the Republican and conservative side, due to the fact he strongly believes in what he believes in and that is how it should be - especially with the issue of welfare and poverty. Sanders believes that welfare and poverty must be alleviated no matter what it takes, whether it be taxing the rich or strengthening social security.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-public-assistance/

An example of a candidate appealing to the liberal/Democrat side is when Marco Rubio says that welfare is not enough because opportunity to exit poverty is not given - he says that he wants to be able to give people a chance to get out of poverty. This appeals to liberals because they believe in equality and justice, and getting someone out of poverty is something noteworthy.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Marco_Rubio.htm

Rafael Maldonado

3/17/2016 07:00:54 am

Topic: Education
1. Conservative appealing to a liberal: By having more schools open to children for them to attend can allow more options in what the children are passionate for. This can lead to small tight knit school communities with children who have the same interest academically. The kids will hopefully grow up to be whatever they wish to be and to help us as a nation grow and to be even more unified. Because if we are unified we are a powerful, we are America.
2. How not to appeal to liberals: We as a nation need people to go to school. Working in schools can allow them to be the absolute best at their job. By having the best, we can obtain so much more profit with quality workers. We can get the more intellectual people to build new businesses and make even more money to pay for everything we have. We can make our country the economic super power.

Diya Patel

3/17/2016 07:35:59 am

Topic: Gun Control

Democratic re-framing for Republican: The second amendment does say that the people have the right to bear arms. However, it does not clarify under what conditions, or what kinds of people have the right to bear arms. Therefore, we should limit guns to men who are trained to protect the people.
This is re-framing because I am interpreting the constitution, verbatim, a practice followed and believed by the Conservatives. Therefore, I believe they would not object to this decision.

Donald Trump not re-framing to the other side: I believe that freedom is a great thing and I believe that every American expect Latinos, Asian, Blacks, and Indian America have the right to bear arms. But guns cause violence, and when I become president, this country will be the safest country on this planet. Therefore, I believe that there is no reason what so ever to legalize guns for the use of the people.

This is not reframing to the opposite side because Donald Trump doesn't seem to care about what the other side believes. He is doing and saying what he believes to be true.

Gregory Wong

3/17/2016 06:52:47 pm

Topic: Immigration
The Republican party: No immigration policy to help those that are illegal immigrants
The Democratic party: A way for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship

Republican Mitt Romney use re-framing when discussing immigration by saying "I am a great proponent of legal immigration ... Many of you are living proof of the unique strength of America that is constantly renewed by new Americans. The promise of America has brought some of the world’s best and brightest to our shores.”
He appeals to the liberal side by supporting the fact that immigrants contribute to the greatness of America. However that those immigrants should come in legally.

http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-immigration/

Erik Lazo

3/17/2016 08:29:56 pm

Many examples can be given towards instances where politicians have made no effort whatsoever to reframe their political rhetoric to appeal to the values of the other side. An example immediately stands out: The GOP Primaries. Many claims are thrown around such as the ignorance, and the act of discrediting global warming. This stands true for all GOP candidates; all of the candidates have bluntly refuted any and all claims that global warming is existential. While it is common knowledge the the majority of liberals do indeed believe in global warming, the GOP candidates have done nothing to reframe their believes in order for liberals to sympathize. The very obvious explanation might be that neither of the candidates are interested in garnering liberal support because they are currently interested in garnering conservative support. In that case the candidates would not even bother mentioning global warming due to the fact that the general consensus of GOP values do not lie with consideration towards global warming. Perhaps the more interesting twist we shall see is whether or not the GOP nominee attempts a reframe in global warming, when in the general election.

Jerry Balbuena

3/18/2016 08:46:45 am

Topic: Education
Democratic re-framing for Republican : If the government diminishes the cost of college and other educational expenses then many children will have a better access to higher education with minimal government assistance.

This is reframing because Republicans will consider the proposal that if the cost of education is reduced this means that there will be less governmental guidance because we will be depending on ourselves. This is essentially what the republicans appeal to which is limiting the federal government in education.

Ivy Nunez

3/21/2016 06:53:14 pm

I agree with your reframing because if college was cheaper we wouldn't even have to rely on the government for aid in the first place!

Laura Sanchez

3/20/2016 08:03:42 am

Topic: Death Penalty

Liberals: This is cruel we must abolish it. Imprisonment is the way to go.
Conservatives: Death penalty is the way to go, it is not cruel.

Conservatives reframing for liberals: We can make execution a smooth process because private prison is a lot of money.
- This is an example of reframing because the conservatives are trying to make it easier for the liberals to agree with them death penalty.

Example: Hillary Clinton seems to support death penalties she just wants it to be less harsh then she has seen in other countries. On the contrary, Bernie Sanders opposes.

Almas Redzematovic

3/21/2016 11:31:30 am

Great examples Laura. Republicans definitely have that mentality of, "lets do what we want and not what the people want. It will benefit us in the end". Death penalties is a topic in where an individual can identify the different point of views Democrats and Republicans have within each other. That is a spot on example of liberals wanting the option of imprisonment and republicans giving off the impression that death penalties are the way to go.

Ivy Nunez

3/21/2016 06:48:16 pm

Topic: Abortion

Liberals believe that a woman should have the right to decide what happens with her own body and it should not be up to the government to decide whether or not she chooses to give birth to a child. Liberals also believe that the only government intervention needed is only to fund things like Planned Parenthood and sex education in schools to give access to any women seeking an abortion.

Conservatives believe that the government should not allow that these women have access to abortion clinics because they are against women aborting a human life. They are in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood and minimizing the amount of abortion clinics through state and not federal legislation to create bigger obstacles for women seeking abortion. These obstacles become so difficult that women are left no choice but to have these children.

Conservatives reframing liberals: Abortion is a tricky topic because while it gets rid of a woman's ability to conceive a child she doesn't want it promotes a certain culture. Abortion may be a social issue that can easily solved by letting women have as many abortions as they want to prevent unwanted pregnancies, but in turn women can easily take advantage of this system and not be more careful when having sex. Rape victims are a special issue and are necessary for severe cases but the problem with abortion shouldn't start by aborting irresponsible women, but by investing more money in sex education rather than abortion clinics to properly prevent unwanted pregnancies rathe than abort a child as much as they want at the government's cost.

Liberals reframing conservatives: If these women are not able to abort children that they are not ready for or simply cannot afford, it is at the cost of the government. It will cause the government to get bigger to support these mothers through government aid such as food stamps, etc.

This is reframing because I'm using them side's argument and bending it so it can fit the other side's values.

Ivy

3/21/2016 06:51:59 pm

John Kasich states that "Kasich on abortion: exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother are “reasonable”: “Yes -- I have always been for exceptions. ...For rape, incest, and life of the mother. ...Because I think it's reasonable.”
Which many liberals would agree are severe reasons for having abortion as an option

Elani Hillman

3/21/2016 09:13:43 pm

Your examples present very interesting ways of reframing, especially your case of liberals reframing conservatives, which I thought was very creative and thoughtful when it postulated that preventing abortion may promote increased government aid due to the birth of a child in an ill-suited environment. This makes conservatives battle between two ideologies, pro-life vs. the influence of the government in the country, thus increasing the chance that some people right of spectrum would flip to the pro-abortion facet of the argument. I'd be interested to see how rightist individuals would respond to this -- it could reveal some interesting discrepancies between social conservatives.

Jigme Dorjee

3/29/2016 05:17:34 pm

Gun control:
Conservatives to Liberals: I see what your saying and I respect that you guys care so much about the safety of the american people. But if responsible americans owned guns to protect their families then that ensures the safety of the american people.
Liberals to Conservatives: Listen no one believes more in human rights than us but a lot of the people that own the guns are mentally illd people that shoot up churches and schools. You guys said guns don't kill people, people kill people so why don't we take more precautions to make it harder for those people to obtain the guns that they use to kill innocent hard working americans.

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